I hate some things, love some others. Not much in between. As Morrison once said, only the highs and lows are worth living...everything else is...well in between.
Was any LDS church money used? Hmm . . . I'm sure I've read it wasn't. Now, as individual citizen, sure, I can send my money if I want -- or can't I?
What I do know is that my mother-in-law and sister-in-law had to take their 'vote Prop 8' sign down each night to prevent vandalism (which didn't work because someone took their Gay/Lesbian anger out on their mailbox anyway) and the neighbor across the street, who also had a pro Prop 8 sign in their yard, had their car stomped on . . . 'By their fruits ye shall know them' indeed.
Actually yes the LDS church did indeed give money to the prop. 8 campaign and they are currently under investigation for breaking campaign laws with their donations.
Furthermore, reading a letter telling the congregation to vote against Prop. 8 is absolutely unacceptable. If the pulpit is to be a place for politicking, then the church should be treated as a political organization.
>> reading a letter telling the congregation to vote against Prop. 8 is absolutely unacceptable. <<
It's a moral issue, Mystic, MORAL. Where is the politics in this? I don't see it. BTW, there are near 800,000 church members in California. They didn't need my help, but next time I will send my $25 too . . . but I guess that really doesn't even cover the mailbox, let alone a stomped car.
'Course there are a lot of Catholics and Baptists, and, and . . . I think there is a lot of firepower that never came to bear. Maybe next time?
Actually, there was an article in the Standard Examiner on Friday or Saturday about the LDS church being under investigation for violating campaing finance laws for allegedly underreporting its contributions to prop. 8 (their official report claimed the maximum allowable donation).
It may be a moral issue on some levels, but once it becomes at issue in a constitutional amendment it also enters the domain of politics. If they are going to act as a Political Action Committee, they should be treated as a political action committee.
sorry friend, but I think you're wrong there. I have yet to read an article that said that the church itself gave money to support the issue. Members of the church did donate but not the church as an institution.
And i believe that marriage is a moral issue (not political). It's within the right of every church to state it's belief clearly so that it's members may be aware of it. While the church may have reiterated the statement it made in 1995 in the "family a proclamation to the world" in favor of prop 8, members have their own free will to vote as they deem necessary.
I'm sure that it may not have escaped your notice (seeing as it was on TV during election week) that prominent members of the church were against prop 8.
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Was any LDS church money used? Hmm . . . I'm sure I've read it wasn't. Now, as individual citizen, sure, I can send my money if I want -- or can't I?
What I do know is that my mother-in-law and sister-in-law had to take their 'vote Prop 8' sign down each night to prevent vandalism (which didn't work because someone took their Gay/Lesbian anger out on their mailbox anyway) and the neighbor across the street, who also had a pro Prop 8 sign in their yard, had their car stomped on . . . 'By their fruits ye shall know them' indeed.
Actually yes the LDS church did indeed give money to the prop. 8 campaign and they are currently under investigation for breaking campaign laws with their donations.
Furthermore, reading a letter telling the congregation to vote against Prop. 8 is absolutely unacceptable. If the pulpit is to be a place for politicking, then the church should be treated as a political organization.
>>the LDS church did indeed give money to the prop. 8 campaign <<
Proof? Articles? Actual evidence?
>> reading a letter telling the congregation to vote against Prop. 8 is absolutely unacceptable. <<
It's a moral issue, Mystic, MORAL. Where is the politics in this? I don't see it. BTW, there are near 800,000 church members in California. They didn't need my help, but next time I will send my $25 too . . . but I guess that really doesn't even cover the mailbox, let alone a stomped car.
'Course there are a lot of Catholics and Baptists, and, and . . . I think there is a lot of firepower that never came to bear. Maybe next time?
Actually, there was an article in the Standard Examiner on Friday or Saturday about the LDS church being under investigation for violating campaing finance laws for allegedly underreporting its contributions to prop. 8 (their official report claimed the maximum allowable donation).
It may be a moral issue on some levels, but once it becomes at issue in a constitutional amendment it also enters the domain of politics. If they are going to act as a Political Action Committee, they should be treated as a political action committee.
sorry friend, but I think you're wrong there. I have yet to read an article that said that the church itself gave money to support the issue. Members of the church did donate but not the church as an institution.
And i believe that marriage is a moral issue (not political). It's within the right of every church to state it's belief clearly so that it's members may be aware of it. While the church may have reiterated the statement it made in 1995 in the "family a proclamation to the world" in favor of prop 8, members have their own free will to vote as they deem necessary.
I'm sure that it may not have escaped your notice (seeing as it was on TV during election week) that prominent members of the church were against prop 8.
just a thought...
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